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Points in the 'Pool?

Keeps his place
By Grockle September 14 2008
After strange selection decisions in the last CC1 game some did think Mr Langer might consider Blackwell for this 1 day game. Not to be however, Mark Turner does keep his place in the squad. This game will decide whether we spend a day in Wales trying to stay in Division 1. As we've spent the last month trying to get OUT, it seems a pointless exercise to one commentator I'm afraid!!

v Lancashire Pro40 @ Liverpool Sunday 14 September 2008

Scorecard

We come to the end of a baffling (used that word twice in a week about Somerset selection) 40 over one day campaign on an out ground in Lancashire against our fellow relegation possibles.  Whatever the master plan was, it hasn't worked for Justin Langer and the strategists at the County Ground.  The decision to go with a one day setup concentrating on the presence of spinning allrounders not called 'Blackwell' has seen us facing Lancashire with only one option allowing us to remain in the top flight of the one day league - a victory.  Little suggests that we will be facing Glamorgan in the play-off in Cardiff at the end of the season but I'm very willing to be wrong about that. A win might keep us up without that option - not sure we would deseerve that but we'll take anything at the present moment.

Justin goes into this game with a side from the following squad;

Trescothick, Langer, de Bruyn, Hildreth, Trego, Durston, Gazzard, Banks, Thomas, Turner, Willoughby, Jones, Suppiah, Caddick

The boss has left himself with a bit of a quandry after not playing Caddy in the Championship match.  Does he want him going into a big four day game at Scarborough rusty because he has had little match practice?  That may mean he partners Willoughby in this last main season one day game.  (I doubt he'll rest the lefty but it is a possible option I suppose).  One would expect the first seven names to be on the team sheet.  The official site suggests that Turner will play in this game so that would leave one place for Banks, Thomas, Suppiah and Jones to fight over.

I've not been impressed by Omari with the bat but it hasn't seemed to be seen as a problem by the selectors and he has played even though his form with the willow has been indifferent to say the least.  Alfonso has done nothing wrong in his games this season and would be a perfectly acceptable choice but it would leave Wes as the only spinning option.  Arul would therefore be a choice should spiin be a possible match component.  Add to that the fact that Steffan comes into this game off a hat-trick in the seconds and it's a real problem for the men with the teamsheet and the pens.  Too many components to predict ahead.  We'll wait and see what transpires at 12:45.

A meaningless game at Chester-le-Street may possibly mean we get no coverage on Somerset Sound but I'm sure Radio Lancashire may cover the game.

They start on time.  The pitch is slow and there's little carry it seems.  Charl is playing and they expect Peter Trego to take the new ball with him so no Caddy.  The side is;

Trego, Thomas, Hildreth, Langer, Trescothick, Turner, Durston, Suppiah, Gazzard, Willoughby and de Bruyn.   Justin won the toss and has decided to field first.  It looks like an inspired choice as all four front line seamers get movement and the Lancashire lads xan do little withh the ball other than play it to fielders.  Willoughby, Trego and especially Turner get the ball doing things and Brown, Vincent Law and Horton all vacate the field of play before the score passes 50.  It's looking good and looks even better when first Thomas gets into the act and then Turner cleans up the last recognised defence from de Plessis at 74 and takes Cross at 75.

A score over 100 looks doubtful but Glan Chapple has other plans and marshalls the Lancashire tail to put up a fight.  At the same time, we take our eye off the ball for a while and let them get a bit more comfortable.  No spin is employed and the faster guys lose focus a little.  Nothing huge but the home side do manage to get the score beyond 150

As Smith, Chapple and Keedy top score within the 40 overs.  The last wicket goes in the last over and we panic for a while as the umpires think about whether to penalise us for a slow over rate and add 6 runs.  They decide against it and we are set 157 to stay in the first flight of one day sides.

They got away a bit but Turner continues to impress and even thought the final figure is higher than we would have liked everyone had a good day and everyone got wickets.

The Reply

Things don't go to plan.  We should belt this lot off and walk away relieved but the Lancashire bowlers have other plans.  Marcus misreads one from Chapple and is steepled.  Langer snicks on behind and de Bruyn  steps in front of one.  Even though Hildreth gets the plan right and settles himself, he only scores one before he also goes and we face 73 for 5 and a non too easy second half of an innings.

Enter Arul Suppiah who does everything right and puts me in mind to say that in this game the presence of Ian Blackwell is not obvious in its absence.  Just as I think he and Wes will sort this they bring on Keedy and his spin and Arul belts up the pitch, misses the ball and is bowled with him in the 30's and taking action he really did not need to take.  Bad bad boy.  Mr Langer will be most displeased and this may come back to haunt you if we don't make this  total.

It gets no better when the confident Peter Trego manages to snick a wide ball and is caught behind.  100 up and no recognised batsmen to partner Wes  to the total.  Carl Gazzard finds himself having to take on more of the Kieswetter role than he expected,  He kept very well but now we need him to bat the game out as the run rate rises and the total still looks a long way off.

When Durston is LBW to Keedy then the introduction of a spinner looks like Law's winning strategy.  Alfonso is in and no mouse with the bat but the rate is up to 8 an over and there afren't many overs left!  Carl however seems non plussed by it all and even when there is a need for 15 off 10 balls, the two Somerset men seem quite cool about it.  

Lo and behold we never needed to worry.  With 2 balls to go Thommo pops the ball past the infield and runs the two needed to win the game and keep us in the first division by taking us above Worcestershire in terms of games won.  They go to Cardiff and we breath a buge sigh of relief!!  Well done boys but why oh why do you insist in leaving it so flaming late?

There are real problems with ouor one day performances but we have the winter to sort them before another season in the top draw to show we have learned some valuable lessons and accepted some home truths about how we face the short format game.

Left it late but better late than never.   

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Somerset v Lancs Stay Up/ Down or Play Off
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:13:13:36:10

Still no Blackwell I thought they might have swallowed their pride and picked him.

Turner keeps his place from the previous Pro 40.

The team will be picked from.

Langer, Trescothick, de Bruyn, Hildrith, Trego, Durston. Gazzard, (Kieswetter still not fit) Banks, Thomas, Turner, Willoughby, Jones, Suppiah, and Caddick.

In the event of winning the match they will feel justified in not picking Blackwell I not sure I will be!!

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Re: Somerset v Lancs Stay Up/ Down or Play Off
Posted by: everhopefull (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:13:14:19:30

Brian Rose has quoted on the Club site, that whatever the outcome of the game against Lancs, the inconsistent form in the one day game will be addressed in the winter.
[www.somersetcountycc.premiumtv.co.uk]

I cannot see the point of changing at this late stage of the season.

Might we see a new one day specialist who would also captain the one day side only, Justin might be happy to play only 4 day games.
And no it will not be IB.

Re: Somerset v Lancs Stay Up/ Down or Play Off
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:13:17:08:19

If we end up in the play-off position it will against Glamorgan.

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Re: Somerset v Lancs Stay Up/ Down or Play Off
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:13:19:35:55

BR quote "the inconsistent form in the one day game will be addressed in the winter".

Happy with that.

Just hope we can get a full picture of the strategy/reasoning behind this seasons one day 'performances'.

Grizzzly

Re: Somerset v Lancs Stay Up/ Down or Play Off
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:13:19:41:24

Hope you are enjoying your stay here, Grizzzly; it's just possible we've held some slightly better weather in reserve just for you (and to ensure that we win the championship properly).

LoL

Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Somerset v Lancs Stay Up/ Down or Play Off
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:13:19:45:04

Thanks LoL

Enjoyment just a trifle tapered by the fact that we have to fly back to Grizzzlyland on Friday !

Still, hopefully we can wrap up a max points win meantime.

Grizzzly

Re: Somerset v Lancs Stay Up/ Down or Play Off
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:13:20:17:39

Of course, time to hibernate, as we've mentioned before. You will sleep more easily after we've safely despatched Yorkshire.

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Re: Somerset v Lancs Stay Up/ Down or Play Off
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:13:20:32:47

You've spoilt my week now Lol.No point going now I know the outcome.

Re: Somerset v Lancs Stay Up/ Down or Play Off
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:13:20:50:09

Go back to my posting, BR, and unread it.

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Re: Somerset v Lancs Stay Up/ Down or Play Off
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:08:17:46

Lancashire unchanged after beating Nottinghamshire by one run off the last ball at Trent Bridge on Wednesday.

Re: Somerset v Lancs Stay Up/ Down or Play Off
Posted by: Ww (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:09:31:34

If we are in the playoff, how is it decided where it is played?

Re: Somerset v Lancs Stay Up/ Down or Play Off
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:09:46:48

Glamorgan automatically get a home draw for finishing third in the second division.

I am off down Taunton to watch Bridgwater v Glastonbury in a 20/20 match.

I have been told that there are three matches and this would be the better one to watch, it is the middle of the three starting about mid-day.

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Re: Somerset v Lancs Stay Up/ Down or Play Off
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:09:58:14

Why prolong the agony. We ought to just lose and have done with it. Let's see some consistency boys!!

(Sm72)

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:10:55:49

No indication that "Somerset" Sound will be covering the game/ I've provided a link to the BBC internet coverage in the main story for the radio buffs. Hope it works but I doubt we'll be hearing Phil T's dulcet tones.

(Sm72)

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:11:17:31

Radio Lancashire are covering it.
Somehow I don't think they would slit commentary with their neighbouring county.
There is a link on BBC sports cricket pages.

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:11:21:21

Already linked it up BR

(Sm72)

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:12:42:26

Cracking start!
Where is everybody?

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:12:49:41

Quote:
Frome Exile
Cracking start!
Where is everybody?

At Liverpool? Not me, I was at Tesco!

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Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:12:54:57

Very nice, Are these the same bowlers or ringers? Off to the Rugby- keep it going while I'm away

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:13:15:48

Superb start,we'really getting the hang of this one day stuff.
You can't fault this skipper.
Four day,one day.
He takes it in his stride.

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:13:17:36

The ball is swinging and all four of our boys are moving it about.

Lancashire seem to be 'out of form' again - if only they tried what a game it would be!

Mark Turner a real handful and some of the Lancs guys batting like Somerset middle order men!

It is on MW on Somerset Sound guys and gals if you're out in the garden like me and not able to access the net out there.

(Sm72)

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:14:05:50

Let's not get too cocky. We've yet to face the swing!

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Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:14:50:53

What are the chances that today`s wicket at Riverside - Glo`shire 119 all out, Durham currently 22-3 - will be replicated for the four-day match there starting Wednesday?

Durham will be using all the tricks of the trade for a CC win against Sussex, but will have to remember they have already had a couple of visits from the Inspectorate of Wickets this season. No points deducted yet though.

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:14:54:46

Just in case we ever get accused of being a bit precious about bias within Radio Bristol's coverage remember this.

With 6 overs to go at Liverpool and Gloucestershire off the field in the interval at Durham, we suddenly had to leave the coverage at the Somerset game in mid over...Why? To discuss the Durham innings and wait for the Gladiators to take the field to try and defend an awesome total of 119!!

We then get 5 overs of waffle about how wonderful Kirby is before it is mentioned that the first half of the 40 over game at Liverpool is over and there's some controversy. Then we pop across (between overs only) to sum up the fact that Somoerset took THREE wickets in the last 5 but might be penalised for a slow rate. Then it's back to Durham for more excitment (admittedly there had been a few wickets).

Do we go over for the start of the Somerset innings in the same way? Nahh we go across about 4 overs in during a lull in play in the game involving God's Own County.

Does anyone wonder why a Somerset listener would listen to Radio Lancashire instead? Why make out that the coverage has anything to do with a Somerset radio station? No-one at Bristol does anything but play lip service to cricket as a whole and Somerset as a local area of interest.

Listen on Radio Lancs people our local coverage is a flaming joke!!

(Sm72)



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Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:16:09:46

Disgusting,disgraceful coverage.
Pathetic,they're a joke of a radio station.

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:16:20:48

Well I'm back from the Rugby and disappointed with the score. Even if we win-and I'm not too sure of that, we still end up in the play offs because of our net rate.
The Rugby was good.

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:02:42

33 needed off 5 with just MT and Willow to come, forgive me if i lack any confidence!

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:04:19

You're forgiven.
We're doing this the hard way. C'mon My Babbies!

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:04:36

Cant understand the slow scoring, surely its best to be all out short going for it, than 150-9 off 40 and still lose!?

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:06:07

We've still got Willow to come - no worries.

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:08:47

"one shot willow" no probs then,
step away to leg and swing wildly, may prove the best way...

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:11:55

Go Gazzo GO. Don't want the tie. 13 off 8 balls.

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:12:03

He's been practicing the reverse wild swing.

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:12:39

9 off 7. COME ON !!!!!!!!

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:13:31

8 off the last. Shopping trips anyone?

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:13:54

i cant cope, come on gazz!!!

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:15:03

4 to win!!!

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:15:25

Brilliant Thommo. Then a WIDE!!!! 3 off 4. Go GAZZZZ.

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:15:35

2 off 3

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:17:21

GET IN THERE we win!!!
Who knows if we beat worcs on run rate?

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:18:05

Gazzard is my hero!

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:18:12

YEEEEEHARRRRR!
Bring on the Welsh (but get a shed load of points up at Scarborough first).

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:18:49

No problems.Never doubt our ability in 40 over stuff.

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:20:25

So are we 6th or 7th, do we avoid the trip to wales?
radio bristol seem to think we are div 1 next year, do they know what they're on about?

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Coy (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:21:32

Sky say we are safe no play off.

They say the play off is Glam vs. Worcs.

So hope they are right.

C'mon Somerset

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Coy (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:23:02

We finish above Worcestershire on more wins.

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:24:47

Must be on wins then. Wouldn't have thought we could have gone above Worcs runrate. Great stuff. I wonder if this new Forty40 could be the new Twenty20? I'll start the wave here in Clevedon, onto to wsm fan, down to Grocks, then BJ, then all the way back to Bristol Rob. Come on it's worth a go. I'll start it in 5, 4, ...

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:24:59

It seems that we are safe, as Worcs lost and have the same number of points, but we won 3 games to their 2. N/R rate doesn't come into play, unless both team have otherwise identical records.

Well done Carl Gazzard, a long time out in the cold but came good when we needed him.

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Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:26:49

Did anyone notice the crucial boundaries that Sussex hit to you know where?

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Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:28:00

At Liverpool? Some boundaries!

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:28:47

Comfortable! winking smiley
Well played Carl!

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:29:02

No problem tractor, wave is on its way to grockle now!
Now we have safely secured our survival from pro 40 div 1 lets take the momentum into scarborough game on wednesday, come on lads...

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:29:27

I could have saved myself some energy if I'd have realised that run rate didn't matter.

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:30:34

Whoops-here's the wave in Newcastle

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:30:59

Well I'm so glad because I've been looking at ways of getting from Scarborough to Cardiff on sunday.
A relaxing sunday at the seaside next week I hope.

OH I do like to be beside the seaside.

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:36:33

Last one in the North Sea is a wimp (and anyone calling local news teams about a beached whale is off my Christmas card list).

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: MisterMurph (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:40:18

Just checked the points table. A Somerset supporter who attended all 8 games would have witnessed more than 3,600 runs. A supporter of any other side in Div 1 would only have seen less than 3,000.

Support Somerset - more than 20% more entertainment than anyone else.

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:41:45

Thank heavens for a fixture list that gave us our last game againnst a team as bad as we are!!

Well done to the bowlers for their first spell,

Well done to Ian Chappell for trying to keep his side in it when we let the foot off the gas

Thanks to the umpires that they didn't penalise us for a slow rate

Well played early Lancs bowlers

Well played Arul Suppiah for setting this up. Slap on the hand for going down the wicket to a spinner when there was no need at all. You were in you numpty!

Cool award to Carl and Alf for bringing it home in such a manner - heep your head and find the spots. Way to go dudes!!

We are still there and that is excellent news but let's keep this in the real world.

We have a whole bunch of things to put right in this format

We have just won a game where we were required to score at less than 5 an over and we did it with a ball to spare. For now we celebrate the win but this has to get a whole lot better before we really should feel we deserve to be a first division side by right rather than bby luck.

On to Scarborough......

(Sm72)

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:46:07

Now that we've got the Mickey Mouse stuff out of the way, let's go and win the 'big' one!(Sm108)(Sm60)

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Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:49:03

Here here, whilst it is good that we have retained our division 1 status in the 40 over stuff the proper cricket trophy is the one we most want, lets hope for fair weather at Scarborough to give us every chance...

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:49:15

Quote:
Tractor
Last one in the North Sea is a wimp (and anyone calling local news teams about a beached whale is off my Christmas card list).

Make sure you keep off the donkeys!(Sm142)

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Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:55:09

Is that the local brew Wurzel?

Re: Points in the 'Pool?
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:14:17:56:12

I shall have to lie down in a darkened room for a couple of hours - no good for the blood pressure!!

Well done lads, skip, Charl, Wes, Arul, the Fonz, Gazzz....all of them really!

At least we get to play in the first Div in its last season.

Bring on the Tykes! Re-group for Wednesday and roll the Tykes over for doing the same to us at Taunton earlier in the season.

And lets hope Lancs play to their full potential again back at fortress Taunton!