Noel Gallagher blames Margaret Thatcher for knife crime

yes Maggie Thatcher is to blame.she stamped her personality on British society.A personality of selfishness, cruelty,arrogance and a distain for compassion for each other.Remember 1984 live aid record with the money going to Ethiopia? She taxed the sales of the record.Does not that say everything about her and Britain today?

Typical throwaway comment by Gallagher-no real thought;bit like his 3 chord status quo like songs (though quo did it first)And his guitar playing is really mediocre.This is another problem in Britain,celebrating mediocre talent,then asking it for views.and noel thinks he's well'ard and intelligent-but he's just a tosser.though liam is even moreso.

Noel has hit nail on the head. All those out there saying no no no. I was there as a teenager when this all started. My school had 2 gangs but back then stabbing was low scale and it was all about nicking gold chains from people and the stabbings were between gang members now its esculated whereby anyone can get it if you open yr mouth or are in wrong place at wrong time. Many of my schools friends are gone, shot or stabbed. It started when thatcher was around but i think Labour government have ruined this country in that way and more by talk and no action. I am the people, i am in touch with the people MP's and most of society dont have a clue why ths started, why its happening or what to do about it. We know but they dont care about us or our opinions. I cry out everyday for them to do something i have 3 kids and live in fear and loose sleep everyday because of the what is happening.
So desperately sad.

Noal Gallagher should look a little bit before Mrs T. for the current malaise that has created the current knife culture. It is the decline in family values that has happened in the post war years.

The traditional family has been attacked and it has got to the point that the family where one parent is at home, and the other is working is the most taxed in this country. Yet it is with the nuclear family that most get the moral guidance from. In addition the rise of divorce has meant that the responsibility to each other that was also present in families no longer is and now generations exist who have not had this basic form of moral guidance.

Few realise that far from giving the person respect a gun actually takes it from them. It is the gun or knife that gets the respect, not the person holding it

It almost goes without saying, but *this* Government has destroyed this country, not what's gone before. Noel's comments smack of defensiveness - he sees that his precious 'working class-lefty' Government has failed, in every conceivable way, and so hits out in a vain attempt to put the focus onto the Tories. Is he seriously suggesting that 5 more years of Labour would *help* this growing problem?!

Labour have quite clearly run out of ideas. They've raised taxes beyond all compare. The Council Tax is worse and more regressive than the Poll Tax ever was - and what is it spent on? Rubbish collections in many parts down from weekly to fortnightly, some districts even fining people for extra rubbish or incorrectly recycling! Just some of the hundreds of way Labor has had their hands in our pockets; destruction of the bottom income tax band, a massive increase in the amount of people paying huge quantities of Inheritance tax, Capital Gains Tax, and Income Tax at 40%. They've thrown money at truancy; it continued to rise. They've absolutely ploughed it into the NHS; thousands of people now without a dentist, still zero culpability, 80% foreign nurses, still too much paperwork, not enough accountability and money spewing out at the sides. They've closed schools, hospitals, prisons, and Post Offices at an alarming rate, but exams are still getting easier, class sizes are getting bigger, and Superbugs continue to roam freely in our wards.

The only, *genius* way they've come up with to save any money is to go back on an agreed pay rise for the Police Force. A Police Force which has had to put up with the Government instructing magistrates to release offenders back into the public rather than lock them up, that has had to cope with the onset of the 24-hour licensing laws without any extra funding to pay for the required extra resources, that has had to take on extra (expensive and resource-draining) responsibilities in the fight against International Terrorism - a fight which was created and then greatly enhanced by this Government's Immigration and Foreign Policies, and a Police Force which has had an extra 2,000 laws, annually, to enforce because of Labor's incessant legislating.

This sublimely uneducated Oasis member has not got a clue. Blaming Thatcher for knife culture is so ignorant it blows my mind away.Assuming he can read, I suggest he delves into modern UK history which should put him right.Now it is up to this desperately weak government to take action. (And as a former miner I used to vote labour!).

I suppose he also thinks that it has nothing to do with decadent, immoral, drug taking and foul mouthed pop stars over the last forty years.

WOW!!! It�s getting so bad in the UK that moronic celebrities and the pseudo intellectuals (that are the foundation of the loony labor left) are turning on their party. The left has always depended on narcissistic nihilists that are easily manipulated into a sense of importance by other narcissists that they get it and are special because they feel the pain. This delusion reassures the idea that they truly know what�s best for everyone even though they live in ivory towers of self imposed seclusion.

With that said remember these lyrics

�Your wondering now what do now you this is the end�
�Britain has fallen, now your on your own�

Pavel Penguin (Skanking the night away as the west falls. What else is there left to do? Might as well have some fun)

PS...Don't worry we in the USA we are not that far away so save us a seat around the The bonfire of the vanities of whats left of the western civilization.

Gallagher is an even bigger prat than I originally thought he was.The rot set in when morons like him became celebrities and Maggie Thatcher had nothing to do with it. If he had a brain cell he should look no further than his own appalling example.

End the welfare state - no work, no money, except for the truly mentally and physically handicapped - beer guts don't qualify. Bring back the death penalty - prevents procreation by people genetically predisposed to violence. Curb immigration and stop publicly funding all "multi-culturalism" and "diversity" programs. If you want to live in the UK, be British!

BLAME THE PARENTS - WHO DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEIR KIDS ARE DOING.

John McDade is right...there have always been psychos who go about in gangs killing people for fun (if you study history you'd know this is true even in Britain for ANY era..it seems to follow a surge in the birthrate of children born to parents who can't or won't properly raise their children) however, the problem is becoming endemic because the children with emotional problems from broken homes are becoming a larger portion of the population. So it makes sense that the problem is getting larger and will keep getting larger if the government doesn't support the family unit. Children need to be properly socialised and taught empathy from caring mothers (you are not born with empathy it has to be taught and preferably at the right age when a lot of children are being shoved into nurseries)without empathy it becomes more probable that these children will become sociopaths especially when they've been abused or neglected by their parents who treat them like cash cows or reproduction badges. The issue isn't social class or money that, it's about the family and whether its functioning properly. If the government encouraged married people to work through their problems and stay together if possible rearing their children with large tax breaks we'd see a huge improvement in twenty years...but we're dealing with multiple generations of problem children having children, many who see their babies as cash cows...this problem will either take forty-fifty years to sort or another world war! This week I read about those two Frenchmen and my first thought was, What the hell is going on? And hell pretty much sums up what our country will be if something isn't done to fix the core problem...and yes if these sociopaths kill someone they should be locked up for their whole LIFE or executed. One less person who'll randomly kill someone for fun is better than letting them out to kill again! These so called liberals will be the first to complain when it's their child or grandchild or family member who gets stabbed to death for no reason. The Liberal experiment isn't working...it should be killed before it kills society!

Just take a look at the television to see why children are de-sensitised. I put it down to a lack of Mary Whitehouse.

To add to this, parents act just like children these days. Children are treated as friends by parents, and parent's would never DARE tell their children what to do.

It was the acceptance of vulgar language on the radio that started it, then we had more disgusting things on television, and now it is fashionable to be a remorseless and unfeeling psycho killer.

Anybody would think that the government planned this to happen.

This Governments policies on Immigration combined with an obsession with the criminals rights and no regard to victim and impotent police has got us into this mess. If Tony Blair and Gordon Brown had been more focused on the wars that go on our streets than fighting futile and egotistical campaigns in the Middle East under the bogey man head line of "terrorism" we would be in a far better state.

Partially right, in that he's got the era correct.

But it was the Left that propagated the idea that pretty much any form of criminal activity from shoplifting to dropping rocks on taxi drivers on the motorway was acceptable, as it undermined the authority of the state.

It was the Left that sowed the storm, not Margaret Thatcher, and now they're reaping the whirlwind.

And not just in the area of knife crime, either.

Er, yeah, where did Noel Gallagher actually say it's Thatcher's fault.

Personally, the guy's right. Just because he's not your upper class toff, everyone at the Telegraph thinks his opinions should be devalued.

It's good to see someone like Noel Gallagher speak out against this. It needs all the attention, so what's wrong with a big rock star speaking common sense, for God's sake.

We need more prisons! So we can start locking people up again, and so that the potential sentences actually deter kids from committing crime. 'Cautions' for burglary? Robbery? RAPE?! Nowhere else in the WORLD would this be tolerated, let alone encouraged by the Government. How many memos have been issued to magistrates by the HO instructing them to stop putting offenders in prison?

The prison fiasco didn't suddenly appear out of nowhere, it has been inevitable for a long long time, easily from when Blair got into power. Why did he refuse to do anything about it 10 years ago?! We know now that by the time these useless new 'Titan' prisons will finally be finished, the excess in the prison population will be greater than their capacity. The Government needs new answers.

Also, when will the Government and press own up to the 'problem of Somalia'? This country has been in the midst of civil war for years. We can no longer naively assume that simply by accepting refugees from this country, they will seamlessly integrate into British culture. They do not. They roam in gangs. They carry knives. They sell drugs. They rob people, and when it goes wrong, they stab people. Mostly in London, but increasingly elsewhere around the country. Go down to Brighton seafront on a Friday/Saturday night, and guarenteed a Somalian (from London) will offer you pills. If our Government insists on continuing to accept all refugees, fine, but as soon as you commit any violent or serious crime, you go HOME. Wherever it is. That is your motivation for NOT committing crime. Its easy enough, trust me, the Government will give you a flat and the equivalent of minimum wage in benefits, so there's really no need to go out robbing or dealing drugs anyway.

I always thought this man was an idiot and am now convinced of it.

The blame lies fairly and squarely with 11 years of Labour destroying our society's values by massive and disruptive immigration bringing in foreign cultures, often undesirable for example in their treatment of women, on a massive scale, and in the promotion of multiculturalism, rather than insisting on integration into and propagation of our once common values of decency and fair play.

OH DEAR, where did the TELEGRAPH omitted HALF of what NOEL said. This is COMPLETELY misrepresented.

I come from Glasgow,if any city knows about knife crime then this is it,from the razor gangs of the 20s,30,40s through to the extremely violent 60s and 70s of the cleaver weilding street gangs and the seemingly random (any reason will do) street stabbings and slashings we have on a daily basis here,so the Thatcher comment is absurd.
Talk to these guys.they don`t fear prison or the law because it`s a cakewalk now,TV in your cell,menus for meals,smoking whenever you like (It will only be a matter of time before some skank notices the discrepancy and takes the Govt to court about his human rights being breeched by passive smoking in there WATCH THIS SPACE!! our law lords will make some A**HOLE decision in his/her favour and compensate them as victims at taxpayers cost if recent decisions are anything to go by) etc etc etc.
A life sentence is LAUGHABLE in this country,stealing a tyre or vandalisim gets a heavier sentence in some countries than we give out for MURDER!!and they don`t serve their time in HM Hilton either.All these suits and law lords who are making the decisions about the lawlessness that is blighting the lives of us in inner cities have no idea what it`s really like to live on our streets,they go back to the farm or stately pile in Perthshire , Hampshire or wherever at the end of the night,try walking our streets,see what we`re living in,feel the fear of parents,communities all over this land and get your fingers out the Westminster Piggy Bank and deal with the problems we face or move aside.. HAND OUT SENTENCES THAT DETER,a life sentence for murder should be A LIFE sentence just as victims families are confined to their life sentence with the loss of a loved one.GIVE THESE THUGS THE SENTENCES THE PUBLIC OF THIS COUNTRY WANT,WE are the victims!!I`m sick and tired of bleeding heart liberals,human rights this,citizens rights that groups getting all the publicity,funding to support SCUM!!Our society is in ruins because of the BLAME IT ON THATCHER thinking!!Every single one of us who cares should email,write or call their MP demanding action and much much harsher penalties and regimes to deter these scum,if your MP does`nt agree... it`s very simple DON`T VOTE FOR THEM!!and tell them why not!!

The charity National Society for Children and Family Contact (NSCFC) warns that until such time as the government brings about reform and parity in family law, the like of which at present excludes wholesome fathers, grandparents and all on the paternal side of a child�s life after separation or divorce at an alarming rate, then its for sure that many seeking a sense of identity and belonging will turn to gangs and so will continue the never ending rise in anti-social behaviour. Add to this the mindless creation of a nanny state at the expense of parental responsibility rights and we have the complete recipe for disaster and with it still more out of control behaviour the like of which is manifesting itself in knife and sex crime with increasing numbers of youngsters suffering from mental illness. Address the cause and just maybe we can begin to replace gangs with good wholesome role models via the family unit.

We now have another great mind from the pop world to join give us yer munny for Arica Bob.
Why do certain people insist on blaming Mrs Thatcher for everything,I hear them all the time on phone ins.This week Jackie Smith was on one,and clearly stated she doesn't support zero tolerance for crime,and we can see the results of her policies.
P.S.(not MrsThatchers)

Noel Gallagher is precisely how old? This moron was little more than a child during the Thatcher years with a child's limited understanding of what was going on and what preceded it. So just another hopelessly ill-informed rant from an ill-informed and none too bright oik then. I don't think the likes of Gallagher are able to see that a lot of the blame rests with people like himself and his own awful behaviour. Still, his kids are suitably insulated from the vagaries of the street so need not worry overly much. Noel, you are just another privileged toff now. Or hadn't you noticed. By the way, your music sucks.

Mr Gallagher,
My son was at school with you.
I know what he reported of you.
Do you really feel comfortable making public statements like this?

As long as we have got ahome secretary that doesn't know her arse from her elbow,this knife culture will carry on.They should bring back hanging because these thugs are no good to this society.

Despite all the dissenting comments, Gallagher is perfectly correct. The root of the crime explosion does lie in the Thatcher years.
It was during her time that the left, bitter at being excluded from power, began orchestrating attacks on law & order. Remember Grunwick, the Miners' Strike? Ken Livingstone shoulder to shoulder with the IRA? Soon we had Broadwater Farm & the Brixton Riots which were not nearly as 'spontaneous' as people would like to believe. Remember the Poll Tax Riot?
All through this period, the left were putting over the idea that breaking the law in the 'fight against Maggie' was to be applauded. Anyone who opposed the Government by any means was a hero. Even small children were given the message by their teachers.
The Thatcher years also saw the growth of the victim culture. That to be black was to be oppressed. That any attempt to uphold the law could be seen as confrontational to the black community.
Remember the 3 million unemployed? To be one of them enrolled you in the 'fight against the Tories, whatever your sympathies. And if you were supplementing your benefit with some work on the 'black'? No problem. It's all for the cause.

Is it any wonder that we're in the state we're in? For a generation there has been a concerted campaign to undermine society. Now it's promoters are the Government but it long ago slipped from their control.
But they started it.

I applaud many of the comments already made here. Why as a country are we allowing a small poisoned minority dicate the environment that we live in. We need to make the punishment fit the crime, build more prisons and stop tolerating these throwbacks to neanderthal times - strong, positive no nonsense leadership is required and unless one of the leading parties can put someone forward I fear that a margiinalised party like the BNP will start to gain favour - now that would be a disaster for everyone.

I felt a lot safer walking the streets under Thatcher.

Coppers are too scared to search those most likely to be carrying weapons due to being branded 'racist'. Whose fault is that, Noel?

The charity National Society for Children and Family Contact (NSCFC) warns that until such time as the government brings about reform and parity in family law, the like of which at present excludes wholesome fathers, grandparents and all on the paternal side of a child�s life after separation or divorce at an alarming rate, then its for sure that many seeking a sense of identity and belonging will turn to gangs and so will continue the never ending rise in anti-social behaviour. Add to this the mindless creation of a nanny state at the expense of parental responsibility rights and we have the complete recipe for disaster and with it still more out of control behaviour the like of which is manifesting itself in knife and sex crime with increasing numbers of youngsters suffering from mental illness. Address the cause and just maybe we can begin to replace gangs with good wholesome role models via the family unit.

And Noel Gallagher should know. He is one of the scumbags.

Oasis were a shite 60s rip-off and it's no surprise Noel's opinions are shite rip-offs too.

Successive governments turned this
country into a nanny state.Parents are not allowed to chastise their children for fear of being charged.
The scum who carry out these attacks on innocent people love to
inflict pain.Lets give them what they love,PAIN.Bring back the birch
for anyone carrying weapons.

Very reassuring to know that a piss artist cum banjo player has got all the answers while the rest of us are still searching for the eternal truth.
Hello! it has been almost 20 years since Thatcher departed politics and since then around 11 years of Labour government. Plenty of time I thought to put right all the wrongs. Even Blair himself said he was going to go for the root cause of crime not just simply bang up all offenders. Fast forward 11 years? Worse than before and getting still getting worse by the day.

Why does a (supposedly) serious newspaper report the saloon-bar views of an idiot?

He wears his socialist badge of bitterness and hatred with incredible naivety. Try analysing what the socialist ideology called multiculturalism has done for our streets and our society. Try analysing that all teenage murders this year in London have been committed by immigrants or youth from the ethnic minorities.Then Noel airhead Gallacher tell us what happened to immigration controls since the socialists took power in 1997. That's right we have none so we have allowed terrorist cells to thrive, we have allowed black gangs to roam the streets we have allowed segregation and hatred to grow between communities which is now exploding in a level of violence never before witnessed. Over to you Noel Airhead

Mmm, interesting now that the boot is on the other foot, Noel. I don't suppose you were very concerned about knife crime and how it affects young people when you were being a vandal on that Cathay Pacific flight!

Well, I think it's Henry VIII's fault...

I blame Thatcher for the increase in morons like Noel Gallagher.

Judging from his own public persona in the past, Noel Gallagher is hardly the best man to preach about present day thuggery.

Nothing to do with Thatcher, it's mindless dopes like this thicko that cause half the problems with their loutish behaviour in front of their fans.

It is utter nonsense to blame Margaret Thatcher for what is happening on our streets today. Does anyone remember a Prime Minister who was going to be tough on crime and on the causes of crime?

what an idiot. if anyones to blame its tony Blair{If Thatcher was wrong} who had every chance to put Briton right over 10 years who instead gadded around the world self opinionated ,spin and listening to god. No, the rot set in years ago 60.s/70's socialism. lack of discipline, bad education all to do with the Labour party,do gooders odd ball academics and morons like Gallagher, plenty of them with to much to say etc . Its all to late now and coming back to haunt the people in Britain

Well said Noel. Such ideas as there being "no such thing as society" seem to be coming home to roost.

Or are Telegraph readers still blaming the hippies of the 60s? Or perhaps moved on to Blair/Brown and thus coveniently airbrushing the Thatcher/Major years out of history.

IS this the DT or Hello magazine?

Was Noel sober at the time?

Popstars, celebrities, Hollywood, & the like - with their abuse of drugs, widely published sexual depredations, graphic depictions of sex & violent combat - aided & abetted by uneducated & uninterested (mostly immigrant)parents & an appeasing social & education system, have brought the knife-using youth of this country to where they are today. Not Margaret Thatcher.

Thatcher has been gone for what 13 years and this guy wants to lay this mess on her? Please don't show your bum to the world with this tripe

So it was really Maggie Thatcher who started it all? That explains everything! But really, I'm amazed you expected to get anything resembling an intelligent comment out of this prat.

Well I blame NOEL GALLAGHER for being a drunken, boorish, foul-mouthed, ignorant w**ker and who influenced so thousands of impressionable people into acting likewise.

Oddly, however I wrack my brain, I really and truly, hand-on-heart cannot seem to remember Margaret Thatcher, fag in mouth, staggering, pissed out of her mind, from No 10, effing and blinding at reporters..

On the other hand, it COULD have happened in one of those parallel universes postulated in the Telegraph Science section... And in one of those universes, Noel gallagher could have been an intellectual giant...

On the other hand, maybe not, even out of the billions of alternative existences, it is stretching the credibility of even radical science just that bit too far too far...

Now by comparison, fairies at the bottom of the garden, Definitely!!

GOOD GRIEF! Methinks there is lead in the water in Manchester!!

Margaret Thatcher's fault???? What a TOSSER!! If there is anything to blame it is several decades of Marxist subversion in schools, the left dominated teacher's training colleges and the cancer of socialism and the drug of state dependency..

Noel Gallagher should stick to music and drinking, and not tax what remains of his Labour rotted brain.

So it is the fault of someone who has not been in power since before the victims and perpetrators were born?

Off course it could not be the fault of a Government that has destroyed education, discouraged initiative, imasculated the police, flooded the country with immigrants from cultures steeped in violence.

You can't just blame one leader. It's lack of strong leadership which is responsible.

The main reason for the problem is the lack of discipline in society brought about by loony liberal do-gooders of all parties who abolished capital punishment, corporal punishment and decriminalized homosexual acts.

Prisons are no longer places of punishment - they seem to be better than old people's homes - more like hotels.

So thats it then Thatcher is to blame noel you'r a idiot.that is like saying every who commits suicide is fed up with
the noise tou call music.

Margaret Thatcher left office around 18 years ago.

How on earth can any rational man blame her for today's knife crime?

Oh, hang on it was Noel Gallaher. That explains it.

11 years of Labour and this socialist moron still blames Thatcher.
Why not the vikings they where pretty good at this sort of thing.
Get rid of all the political correctness would be a start.

What an ignorant t0$$er - HE is a scumbag. May be he should look at himself and his own attitudes and foul mouthed pronouncements.

Thatcher has been out of power for 17 years yet this arrogant pompous ignoramus blames her for kids being knifed in the streets now - this after 11 years of innefectual Labour education and social policy.

What a to$$ pot

Yet again an apologist for Labour(remeber Cool Britannia?) blames poor old Mrs Thatcger. I don't remeber a crime wave of knife wielding thugs under Maggie or millions claimimg benefits they shouldn't be getting and I'd like to have seen her reaction to overseas propogandists for Al Queda being given free housing and money. Bring back the good old days!