Ryanair Plans $15 Flights to Europe
While US airlines have bumped prices so sharply that some frequent fliers are turning to the bus, a European airline is getting ready to sell you a ticket to London that costs less than an entree at the Olive Garden.
Low-cost Irish monster Ryanair announced that it plans to begin flying from Europe to the US, with economy tickets starting at 10 Euros, or around $13.00. Ryanair expects to make money on the flights by sticking to its wildly successful European business model of charging passengers for almost everything but the air they breathe, and by offering a more traditional business cabin in the front of the plane.
Ryanair's plan is to offer flights between its base at Stansted, an outlying London airport that is popular with the budget crowd, and New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Boston, and cities in Florida. Ryanair doesn't have the planes to get started right away, but the airline's outspoken CEO Michael O'Leary says that with the recession sure to put dents in the order books of Boeing and Airbus, there are deals to be made.
If a $15 flight to Europe sounds too good to be true, that's because it is.
In Europe, Ryanair often gives tickets away, with passengers responsible for only taxes and fees. And it's the fees where the airline makes its money, collecting buckets of cash by charging for everything from mandatory travel insurance and credit card processing to the privilege of using a telephone or ticket counter to communicate with the airline. Another profit center for Ryanair is its QVC-in-the-sky approach to in-flight service, with cabin crews hawking everything from sandwiches and sodas to jewelery, perfume, lottery tickets, and cell phone minutes.
It's a model that has worked well in Europe, where Ryanair has
spread like a fungus, flying 65 million passengers a year to
145 cities, and leaving its Irish competitor Aer Lingus in the dirt. But the airline hasn't been immune to the
financial pressure facing the industry -- expansion has slowed and it
recently announced a 50 percent drop in profits.
And cheap fares alone won't guarantee success. I'm all about finding a bargain, but I appreciate a plane with seat back pockets, window shades, and reclining seats, especially on a nine hour flight to Europe. If my fellow travelers feel the same way, then Ryanair's transatlantic strategy may not fly.
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Posted by: stevelid | Nov 3, 2008 7:12:21 AM
Make sure you book a first class seat when it becomes available:
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=94GJnjvj_3U
See you on board,
M.
Posted by: Michael | Nov 3, 2008 7:19:37 AM
Ryanair and Southwest have a similar selling point for me: they make money!
I don't care about how nice the services are, I want to fly on a NEW airplane that's been properly maintained. Delta may ostensibly have "better service", but I'd rather fight for my seat on a new SW or Ryanair 737 than fly on an airplane of 1960s vintage, maintained by a company that has stared bankruptcy in the face for 10 years. But that's just my opinion (former Boeing engineer)
Posted by: d | Nov 3, 2008 8:31:15 AM
Don't think the travel insurance with Ryanair is mandatory, just tricky to opt out of. From http://matthewparsons.wordpress.com/
Posted by: Journeys Through Travel | Nov 3, 2008 8:34:21 AM
I flew ryanair stansted to dublin on Fridat 31st Oct and there were no seat pockets or reclining seats.
Posted by: Brian Smith | Nov 3, 2008 9:03:16 AM
Nothing fills me with more horror than the prospect of being locked in a Ryanair aircraft for eight hours. My experiences of them have been singularly awful every time. The disparity between their published prices and the prices you actually pay can be huge and their customer service is more or less non-existent. They are not 'value', merely 'cheap'. One has to wonder if they cut corners with their aircraft maintenance the way they seem to cut them with every other aspect of their operation.
Despite living 25 minutes from Stansted and most of two hours from Heathrow, I drive the extra distance to take a one hour flight on Aer Lungus or BA when I need to go to Dublin. I'd take a packet steamer to New York before I few there with Ryanair.
Posted by: Nicko | Nov 3, 2008 9:43:46 AM
When will they begin selling tixs to the USA? I am ready to book!
Posted by: Abraham | Nov 3, 2008 9:50:59 AM
Couple extra batteries for my lappy. Somefood in my carryone and hell even if its 100bucks to get to england IM THERE. You can travel cheap if you want and face it if you could fly 2 people roundtrip for 500 bucks to england. THATS an awsome weekend getaway/Long weekend etc.
Posted by: m3kt3k | Nov 3, 2008 9:56:19 AM
I think it would get more people to Europe. The most cost prohibitive thing is ticket across the ocean. I mean, even at a $15 base price, the taxes and fees wouldn't be maybe more than $150 one way. That's way better than anything else. Granted, flying Ryanair is like taking the Greyhound, but it's still getting you there and with enough magazines it wouldn't kill you. But knowing Ryanair, they probably won't have seat outlets for laptops. Or, they will charge you to charge.
Posted by: Paul | Nov 3, 2008 9:56:23 AM
Yeah, in theory, this is great. But this sounds a lot like the SkyBus debacle.
Posted by: Brittany | Nov 3, 2008 9:56:37 AM
i would never go on this airline ever!!!
Posted by: Aggie | Nov 3, 2008 9:59:47 AM
Ryanair is a racket!!! Cheap flights they are NOT! They charge for your first checked bag, $30 on my $15 flight? hmmm... then the taxes and fees, five times the cost of the ticket... not such a deal after they charge you for everything except bathroom tokens, oops probably just gave them an idea to squeeze more money out of their customers... and the flights I took with this airline had no pockets in the seat backs and the seats did not go back. And its a cattle call for the plastic un-upholstered seats. Awful experience, this is one USA flier not going to fall for this too good to be true sham ever again. I would rather pay an extra 50 bucks for the another airline if it means I get the basic economy comforts that we do get with other airlines. Thank gosh i didn't fall for their insurance trick on their web site. Use with much caution!
Posted by: brandi | Nov 3, 2008 10:06:13 AM
I have to agree w the point of view of D expressed above. Ryanair and probably other cheap airlines like Easyjet must be cutting on maintenance too in order to have these low prices.
I was on Ryanair few years ago on a flight from The Netherlands to London and I can't say bad thing about it. I was on a business trip and didn't know any details about the ticket and the cost. Later on I found out that my plane ticket was only EUR 1. If I knew in advance I probably would not have been on this flight... But in the end of the day if you have a tight budget and can't afford one of the regular airlines then I can totally see how people will prefer Ryanair.
Posted by: Sunny | Nov 3, 2008 10:08:16 AM
Insurance is not mandatory. If you pay attention when you are booking you can avoid almost all of the fees with the exeption of the charge when you use a credit card. Overall a good deal.
Posted by: Mike | Nov 3, 2008 10:09:10 AM
Why wouldn't you use Ryanair?? That's like saying you won't shop at Walmart or Target. I guess people want to spend money to fly "designer" airlines. That's cool, more room on Ryanair.
Posted by: Audrey B | Nov 3, 2008 10:09:21 AM
GO STEELERS!!!!!!!
Posted by: HEINDL | Nov 3, 2008 10:10:22 AM
Best Airline Business model in the world. Not only has it worked in Europe but, also, in the USA. Allegiant Airlines based out of Las Vegas is growing like crazy using this same model.
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Posted by: dfhyf | Nov 3, 2008 10:11:37 AM
First, I wouldn't fly in a European plane anyway, but especially not one this crappy. Delta all the way!
Posted by: Josh | Nov 3, 2008 10:12:46 AM
Sounds very tempting but while Ryan Air has convinient service and dirt cheap fares intra europe, i doubt this can be done for trasatlantic flights, specially since Ryan Air doesnt fly to the main Airports wich offer consecions for their service. While it's ok to be on a Ryan Air flight, that is less than 3 hours,i cant even imagine if it is a long haul. Personally, i wouldnt trade the comfort for a cheap ticket and any hassels. Ryan Air might be perfect for short haul intra europe flights, but i would certently not choose them for a long haul flight going to Europe
Posted by: Don | Nov 3, 2008 10:13:01 AM
I've flown about 10 times with Ryan Air in the last 2 years. From Holland to Ireland, England, Italy, and Spain. The service isn't great, but it's no worse than domestic service in the United States. The prices are great! Definitely recommended.
Posted by: Shaun | Nov 3, 2008 10:13:23 AM
when r they going to put dis service in the USA?
Posted by: shamarla | Nov 3, 2008 10:13:48 AM
If the only catch is that there are a few extras to be paid once you are on board, damn, it is WELL worth it! I flew Ryan Air from Milan to Brussels two years ago and was amazed at the excellent service I was getting for the $20 I paid for the ticket! For one thing, the plane left and arrived right on time. The sandwiches they offered on board were actually very good and the crew was super friendly. So Ryan Air flying to Europe? Count me in!
Posted by: Maxime | Nov 3, 2008 10:14:24 AM
Lots of Ryanair planes do not have seat pockets. It saves them on cleaning the plane.
I fly on Ryanair sometimes. It's uncomfortable and the experience is rather degrading but sometimes I care more about the cash. Would I fly them across the Atlantic? The idea is rather horrible, but I guess if it was cheap enough I'd try it.
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Posted by: dfhyf | Nov 3, 2008 10:14:38 AM
Interestingly their cheif executive was on UK breakfast Tv this morning and said that they were hoping that they could get the long haul aircraft for cheap rates because of the credit crunch, but he had NO IDEA where the stories of the last few days have come from because it's not going to happen imminently. Sounds like some PR agency getting them some free publicity to me, i'm not holding my breath on this happening.
Posted by: chris | Nov 3, 2008 10:14:41 AM
I couldn't agree with the former Boeing engineer more - I'll fly any airline that flies newer, well maintained planes ... Southwest and Ryanair show that any company that watches cost and provides solid basic service can be competitive and make a profit.
Posted by: Eric | Nov 3, 2008 10:14:45 AM
For the person who said they probably won't have outlets for laptops: I fly between Europe and America about 6 times a year in economy class and I have never had a seat with an outlet for a laptop!
Posted by: Joe | Nov 3, 2008 10:15:13 AM
I have flown EasyJet which is a very similar airline from Stanstead to Italy several times. My parents are regulars and pack sanwiches, cheese, crackers etc. They avoid the limited luggage allowance by packing minimally and carrying on food etc. The seats are very limited space but it is not bad for a two or three hour flight. Seven or eight hours would be very tough to take, you just think the major airlines have limited space, Ryanair and EasyJet make them seem like limos in comparison. Sardines in a can would be reminiscent of the feeling.
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Posted by: annie | Nov 3, 2008 10:18:03 AM
One of the great things about our world economy is that there is a variety of products to choose from. The Ryanair fare structure is broken down to be completely a la carte. Like everything in life you get what you pay for. If you choose to fly another company over Ryanair you may get more legroom, friendlier service, a seatback pocket and a free meal but you are paying a premium for those services (or, better put they are built into your ticket price). What you do get on Ryanair is one of the newest Boeing fleets in the air, and a commitment to get you and your bag to your destination safely and on-time. I congratulate carriers such as Ryanair and in the states Spirit who have driven down fares and have made flying affordable for larger groups of people. Like many people, I am a "fare" driven traveler. My goal is to get from point "A" to point "B", preferably non-stop. Also, I would much rather pay for what I use, and not have other passengers services such as drinks and bags lumped into my ticket price. If after doing all of the math choosing Ryanair (or Spirit) will save me money I will put up with the temporary discomfort and inconvienance. For those who do not care for the products offered by these carriers, you are free to buy more expensive transportation elsewhere.
Posted by: Scott | Nov 3, 2008 10:21:01 AM
My wife and I had a flight from Dublin to Brussels a couple years ago. We were on vacation and I thought I was being responsible by purchasing extra baggage for us since we were on vacation...turns out extra means extra bags...no more weight. I ended up paying a couple hundred euro more for our excess baggage fees. I was really annoyed. I thought I read the fine print...but I didn't read well enough. I would avoid RyanAir like the plague for any intercontinental travel in the future.
Posted by: Ryan...not the airline thought ;-) | Nov 3, 2008 10:22:44 AM
My problem with Ryanair is not the lack of amenities. My problem is that I've given the airline a three-strike policy to prove to me that I should reconsider the negative impressions left over from my first experience with them, and they've failed miserably. My experiences were much worse than a lack of ability to shield my eyes from the sun, store things in a seat pocket, or lean my chair back. Every time I've flown with this airline, there's been some sort of major issue with plane operation. Meaning, by the time we landed (all 4 times I've flown with them), at least half the passengers were surprised they were still alive. One time, granted, there was severe turbulence because of weather. But I've flown in worse weather with other airlines and not experienced anywhere near the lack of safety I did with Ryanair. It seems to me that an area they skimp on besides the services is in who they hire to fly their planes. Even on perfectly clear and calm days when I've flown with them, the pilot has seemed to have trouble keeping the plane under control. Still wanna fly Ryanair? Be my guest. That leaves more room on EasyJet who, my guess is, won't be far behind RyanAir in this trend!
Posted by: Lindsey | Nov 3, 2008 10:23:14 AM
I have flown Ryanair many times in Europe and have no complaints. If you understand what you are paying for and what you are not - it is a very economical way to get around. Count me in.
Posted by: Ken Dahlgren | Nov 3, 2008 10:25:01 AM
The author of this story has it all wrong!!! I was stationed in England for 4 years and ALWAYS flew Ryanair and ALWAYS had a low priced and wonderful flight. If Americans will be smart about it, the Delta's, United, and all US carriers are charging the same taxes but charging hundred's more for the flight. RYANAIR is by far the best and cheapest way to get to Europe!!!
Think about it!!!
Posted by: Joey Whiteid | Nov 3, 2008 10:28:54 AM
Also, with ryanair you do not get seat assignments. People who pay more are let out first and they run to the plane to get a seat. Then everyone else is let out and you have to run to get a good seat. I would reccomend flying with an airline who gives seat assignments. Also, many ryanair planes do not have a WC.
Posted by: jc | Nov 3, 2008 10:29:25 AM
You must also factor in the additional cost of getting to and from the hole-in-the-wall airports they fly to. Also their scheduling seems to be more on their own whims as opposed to anything logical. God forbid you miss a flight you could end up waiting in Stanstead for 10 hours then sleeping in a park in San Sebastian (and being charged 50 pounds for your troubles). It's cheap, but it's definitely a lot more trouble than it's worth. (A day and a half to travel from Pamplona to Brussels!) It's definitely worth it to pay the extra money and fly on a real airline or even take a train or even a bus. It could probably even end up being cheaper. Even companies like Vueling or Click Air are better. Check SkyScanner.net to see what's offered from everybody.
P.S. I hate Ryanair
Posted by: Joe | Nov 3, 2008 10:30:47 AM
I flew on Ryanair last year from London to Cork & was very pleased. I had a carry on bag & no checked bag, so I didn't have to pay for it. I am more than happy to get a discount & pay for services I want instead of paying for a ticket & drinks & such that may not interest me. The biggest thing for me was the schedule. When we left the states, our Continental flight left 3 hours late! Every flight we took in Europe, with Ryanair & EasyJet, left on time. We took 6 different flights and NOT ONE left late. If that were the standard in the states, we may travel here more. I just can't believe how much the airlines here charge for incidentals we may not even use. Sure I get to check a bag for free but I sure don't get a discount if I don't check one. I will admit, the seats were a little cramped, but if it means that I can afford to go back to London or Italy or Ireland, I'm in!
Posted by: blskv | Nov 3, 2008 10:33:16 AM
The travel insurance is optional, I've travelled home to Ireland from England twice this year and the round trips cost 16 and 27 pounds all inclusive. They also happen to be the most punctual airline, which I think is more important than a free can of coke.
Posted by: Conor | Nov 3, 2008 10:44:36 AM
A little common etiquette goes a long way. I don't fly often, but when I do I take my trash off the plane with me. An empty plastic bag tucked into your purse or carry-on is a simple solution. I have traveled several times with infants and young children. Part of raising our youth includes teaching them to respect the property and space of others and cleaning up after oneself. Dirty diapers belong sealed in a bag and deposited into a waste bin in the airport restroom after the flight. I wouldn't think of leaving my debris on a plane anymore than I would consider tossing it out a car window. If we don't respect others we can't respect ourselves.
Posted by: CB | Nov 3, 2008 10:46:40 AM
I just flew VivaAerobus, a Mexican airline co-owned by RyanAir, from Tijuana to Monterrey, Mexico. The plane was clean and on time. I was told of the many fees but if you do your homework (carry on size, weight, etc) you can avoid these fees. My overall experience was good... I got a great deal and got what I paid for.. just a flight. Not even peanuts unlike Southwest! Although I did have the option of buying things prior to and during the flight. The cost was just around 60 dollars round trip but taxes and fees made up the rest.. still, this was a great deal versus the other airlines. It appears the RyanAir model can work in Mexico as it has in Europe but I am yet to try a flight accross the pond. Please keep us posted.
Posted by: MR | Nov 3, 2008 10:54:48 AM
I would recommend looking at there table of fees before you book your ticket this will help to bring some clarity to the real price of your “cheap ticket”!
Posted by: Michael | Nov 3, 2008 10:55:21 AM
I resent using Ryanair every time I use them: and yes, I know the irony in that statement. The poorly organised and trained staff mostly look either depressed or uninterested - and I probably would too if my employer wouldn't let me charge a cellphone at work or made me buy the awful uniform myself.
They are unabashedly cheap and nasty. They no longer have seat pockets on any of the London routes I've used (to save space). They have three things in their favour: they fly to some useful destinations, they are cheap, and they usually fly on time. But I would (and do, where I have the choice) pay more to fly with Easyjet, or indeed most other airlines.
The idea of a transatlantic Ryanair flight is just depressing - but I might even endure it if the price was really substantially lower.
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Posted by: kodftguhj | Nov 3, 2008 11:04:07 AM
In my experience Ryanair is the most uncomfortable, dirty, unorganized airline in western Europe. Their staff are rude, not trained properly and they charge you loads for their costumer service phone line. I never fly with them in Europe and I wouldn't fly over the Atlantic with them even if they pay me.
Posted by: Marco | Nov 3, 2008 11:07:31 AM
I agree, this is a great business model. But they modeled their business after the Southwest model back in the 80's follow their near bankruptcy.
Posted by: KDB | Nov 3, 2008 11:09:40 AM
"If it looks to good to be true it probably is" You get what you pay for on a Ryanair flight, in this case a a seat in an airplane crossing the Atlantic. Everything else is going to cost you dearly, bringing luggage, food, drink etc. If Michael O'Leary can figure a way to screw a few more bucks out of the passengers, he will.If you can live with that, go for it.
Posted by: John P | Nov 3, 2008 11:11:01 AM
Though I don't mind many of the services of Ryanair, I would much rather shell out the extra cash to fly Virgin or BA to London. And for those who are unfamiliar with their routes as far as to the Continet I recommend fully researching airport locations as you will be surprised to how inconvenient many of them are for tourist travel. The expensive part of Europe is getting, get a Eurail pass and a Eurostar roundtrip and your good to go.
Posted by: Will | Nov 3, 2008 11:23:35 AM
The only good thing they will do is make Aer Lingus come down in price – I flew to Malta on Ryan Air and I will never fly with them again if I have another option – they ended up being just as expensive with their Hidden fees and it was the most aggravating flight I have ever been on. They don’t even have a complaints dep. and the Ryan Air CEO’s reasoning is your are getting a cheap flight so what do you have to complain about. If used car sales guys invented bait and switch these guys perfected it!
Posted by: FFahy | Nov 3, 2008 11:39:34 AM
I have traveled with Ryanair from Paris to Rome Italie It was really nice in comparaison with Alitalia 3 hours late and the service was very bad. I consider that for the price I will be happy to fly with ryanair to USA. Other things when you get a flight inside america you also pay your sandwish and the planes are old fashion most of the time.
Well I don't complain I wish to have the possibility to travel with them to USA when it's open.
Posted by: David | Nov 3, 2008 11:42:37 AM
I took a 99 pence flight from Aberdeen to Dublin a couple of years ago on RyanAir.
I love this airline.
Posted by: Shonda | Nov 3, 2008 12:04:49 PM
I've travelled twice with Ryanair - Dublin to Berlin and Shannon to Paris - and had no problem either time. I carried hand luggage only and checked-in online so my airport experience on both occasions was a breeze. My paris flight cost only €12 while it cost me twice that to park my car at the airport for 2 days!
Posted by: James Corbett | Nov 3, 2008 12:24:44 PM
I got a free flight yesterday from them. That's right, 0 euros or 0 dollars from Cork to Dublin, and also same price for the return, Dublin to Cork.
Add to that the check-in fee, fee for using credit card or paying by any means, airport taxes, and (gasp) 1 piece of luggage (15 kg, and even 100 g over gets charged ungodly amounts), this free ticket cost me 70 euros.
Plus of course if I want to drink anything, including water...
Posted by: anna | Nov 3, 2008 12:46:03 PM
Just flying from Paris to Dublin was excruciating... I can't imagine what it would be like flying from San Franciso to London! That would be a horrible trip!
Posted by: Mark | Nov 3, 2008 12:53:53 PM
Ryanair is good most of the time. But because they breach airline regulations, if something goes wrong, it goes badly wrong.
I was left stranded with over 100 other passengers at an airport at 2 am because of a faulty aircraft. No support at all was provided. This was plain breach of airline regulations that require transport and accomodation to be arranged if a flight is delayed from one day to the other. Good luck finding a taxi and a hotel at a remote airport at 2am. My claim for reimbursement of expenses was met with a refusal and a mention that I should have purchased Ryanair's overpriced travel insurance. I will now sue.
Fly Ryanair at your own risk. I did and was burned. Now I happily pay more to use airlines that comply with the law.
Posted by: A | Nov 3, 2008 12:59:48 PM
Ok, so you people can complain all you like about how bad the service is and how uncomfortable and, oh my! no pockets! Pockets? are you serious? You're getting dirt cheap tickets! If it means I can get to Europe for those kinds of prices I'd go on a standing room only!
If you have the money to fly in a more comfortable flight, then go ahead and do it. Leave the seats for people who can appreciate them!
Posted by: daydayxvi | Nov 3, 2008 1:03:18 PM
This video says it all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kojt6AnEqPI
Posted by: A | Nov 3, 2008 1:18:24 PM
I wish all aiplane seats didn't recline.
Posted by: no recline | Nov 3, 2008 1:30:07 PM
My suspicion is that Ryanair are kiting this to boost their share price... Michael O'Leary is nothing if not a business genius.
But if they really can provide significantly cheaper transatlantic fares, expect to see me in the US more often. Some airlines, notably Aer Lingus, do reasonably priced and comfortable flights. But if the Ryanair price - after charges - was in the $100 dollar area I'd seriously consider crossing the ocean for a weekend trip.
Posted by: Sergei | Nov 3, 2008 2:05:13 PM
My suspicion is that Ryanair are kiting this to boost their share price... Michael O'Leary is nothing if not a business genius.
But if they really can provide significantly cheaper transatlantic fares, expect to see me in the US more often. Some airlines, notably Aer Lingus, do reasonably priced and comfortable flights. But if the Ryanair price - after charges - was in the $100 dollar area I'd seriously consider crossing the ocean for a weekend trip.
Posted by: Sergei | Nov 3, 2008 2:06:32 PM
I have used ryanair twice - its a bad experience, everything is charged, there are ads everywhere, airplanes are old (what profit seeking company would by an expensive spankin new airplane?) but hey! You pay next to nothing for flying with them. I don't know about flying longer than 4 hours with Ryanair but flying a Europe flight for 2 hours is perfectly fine by me.
Posted by: zekkerjah | Nov 3, 2008 2:52:37 PM
"First, I wouldn't fly in a European plane anyway, but especially not one this crappy. Delta all the way!
Posted by: Josh | Nov 3, 2008 10:12:46 AM"
That's funny, Ryanair fly nothing but good ol' American Boeing aircraft and mostly new ones at that. My last few flights with them have all been on a very new 737-800. Ryanair buy so many Boeing aircraft that the Boeing website featured Ryanair on its main page a couple of years ago.
Posted by: Simon Woodworth | Nov 3, 2008 2:58:38 PM
This is brilliant. Many Americans cannot afford to fly to Europe. An EasyJet sort of model will help that. Plus, the exchange rate is normalizing.
I love London and furthermore, if I can have a cheap way to do transatlantic business for my consultancy, I am there.
Another example of Europe innovating and corporate bailouts in America propping up non-innovative systems.
Posted by: kristopher irizarry-hoeksema | Nov 3, 2008 3:58:04 PM
if you go with ryanair you'll get screwed over with all the extras, bad service, cancelled flights. You're better off going with a normal airline like virgin, ba, united and aa.
Posted by: Michael | Nov 3, 2008 4:02:30 PM
ryanair rox
Posted by: jonnyrox | Nov 3, 2008 6:47:16 PM
"Why wouldn't you use Ryanair?? That's like saying you won't shop at Walmart or Target."
Exactly. I don't shop at Walmart. I refuse to. I will pay more to support places that offer better products. Things that are cheaper at Walmart are usually cheaper for a reason.
The same holds here. Cheap can be nice, but cheap isn't everything. We have a saying in show biz- "Cheap, Fast, Good; pick any two!"
Posted by: | Nov 3, 2008 7:59:59 PM
duesseldorf to london luton = 60 euros without luggage and speedboarding..
Posted by: hg | Nov 4, 2008 12:40:31 AM
Not a fan of Ryanair but I've flown with them a few times and have no complaints. If you're ok with landing 100 km away from the place you actually wanted to visit (Girona instead of Barcelona, Beauvais instead of Paris, for instance) then it is perfectly fine. There are always regular shuttle services from the remote airports to the city at a reasonable price so it's not so inconvenient if you have plenty of time.
Now, for a correction: Insurance for Ryanair flights is not compulsory. You can opt out - as simple as unticking a box while you book online. I would expect Wired to check the facts before publishing an article.
Posted by: eva | Nov 4, 2008 1:39:27 AM
Ryanair are thugs. Extortionists even. Blatantly false advertising, 'optional' extra charges that are nearly impossible to opt out of, horrendously overpriced refreshments, seats made to spec for midgets... and that's just for starters.
For a discount airline done right, try Easyjet.
Posted by: Barry | Nov 4, 2008 2:02:50 AM
People need to stop talking crap about Ryanair. Especially on the internet, where everyone has a different truth and only vary rarely I see one that is correct.
As I actually fly the 737 for Ryanair I do know what I'm talking about.
1. It needs to be absolutely clear that Ryanair UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WILL EVER CUT CORNERS IN AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE AND SAFETY. We are a giant of an airline flying to practically every country in Europe. EVERY country we fly to has the right to vet our entire operation and believe you me, they will take any chance they can get. Our 737 fleet is the YOUNGEST fleet in Europe. On average, our aircraft are 2 years old. Ryanair can say for a fact it has the most modern fleet of all EU airlines.
2. YES, there are VARIOUS EXTRA FEES on top of your ticket. I shall not disagree with you on that one. But instead of whining about it, please pick up a calculator and compare the end price to a comparable ticket from a different airline. I guarantee you on average it is STILL 50% cheaper.
3. Being a passenger on an airline DOES NOT MAKE YOU A VIP. Most of our flights are short hops between A and B. Ryanair will get you to your destination at the cheapest price in the shortest time. Do not whine about seats not having pockets or not reclining. Buy a BA ticket instead.
4. RYANAIR ASSUMES YOU ARE NOT (NOT!) RETARDED. If you are not smart enough to read the fine print while booking you relinquish the right to complain about the price of your ticket later on.
Remember: Ryanair pilots are highly qualified. We actually pay for our training ourselves, unlike most other pilots working for different airlines, so you can bet on it that every Ryanair pilot knows the aircraft and the procedures inside out.
We are faster and more efficient than other airlines, averaging a doors-open to doors-closed time of 25 minutes. Unheard of in the airline industry until Ryanair introduced it.
Unlike what some people might argue this is not unsafe. ALL OUR PROCEDURES HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY RYANAIR, THE IRISH AND UK AUTHORITIES, THE BOEING COMPANY AND EVERY AUTHORITY AT OUR DESTINATIONS! The reason why we manage to do it faster than anyone else is the strong work ethic that thrives within Ryanair. We take pride in doing what others can not, due to impossible unions and lingering legacy issues.
Posted by: Gateway | Nov 4, 2008 5:41:57 AM
My experience with Ryanair is that it's a solid cheap airline. You get what you pay for. $15 for a tickt to US says nothing though. We would have to hear how much will be luggage and so on. Also, the conditions are quite spartan on top of the fact that an atlantic flight is always exhausting. Counting in that you will have to get a serious rest after you arrive it would have to be really way cheaper for me to consider.
Posted by: mcek | Nov 4, 2008 10:39:24 AM
Very nice and informative post about Ryanair Plans $15 Flights.
Posted by: Car Dealers | Nov 5, 2008 4:40:29 AM
All I'll say is the budget airline from Heathrow to Hong Kong lasted about a month. However, MOL is a cunning businessman and maybe the man to make this work, (with a greater chance with the expensive business class section) but if you don't like his terms and conditions, don't fly with his airline.
Posted by: Geoff | Nov 5, 2008 5:13:01 AM
We at http://www.carbroker.org believe that it is a very nice and informative post about Ryanair
Posted by: Car Rental | Nov 5, 2008 7:39:13 AM
New EU legislation since Nov. 1st, 2008, should help somewhat with regards to information on hidden costs, and opt-out insurance must become opt-in :
http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/08/1603
Posted by: haveacupoftea | Nov 5, 2008 10:31:31 AM
$15 ticket & a $2 Ambien, sounds like a bargain way to go transatlantic to me.
Posted by: Philipb | Nov 5, 2008 8:21:40 PM
overall ryan air generally offers the opportunity to purchase a low fare. If your priority is comfort, and service dont travel ryan air. However if you priority is efficiency its excellent. I have been on several return flights costing me less than £5.oo for two people incusive of tax. The same flights would cost me £150 + on other airlines.
Posted by: birdiver | Nov 10, 2008 3:08:06 AM
I'm having a hard time with the nay-saying. $15 ticket to Europe and everyone is finding room to complain? I rode with Ryan Air a couple years ago while in Europe and it was 1. cheap and 2 safe. No other requirements for me, thanks. Obviously, a lot of people here are not on a budget. As someone who does not have a lot of money and someone who loves to travel, I would LOVE to be able to hop on a flight to Europe and not have to save up for two years! This is a great opportunity for those of us who can't afford the $400 and up ticket prices to travel often (or even every other year). I think many people in this country need the experience of traveling outside of N. America but can't afford it currently. Think of the horizons Ryan Air could broaden!
Posted by: Lauren | Nov 19, 2008 2:48:43 PM
Some of the nay-sayer posts are sounding an awful lot like a single person with an agenda.
Posted by: Eric | Dec 9, 2008 1:40:34 PM
RyanAtlantic will work, when people say they wont sit in a ryanair plane for 8 hours because its to cramped total rubbish, The same doubters said the same thing when ryanair switched to its low price no frills business model back in 1992 other airlines laughed and said people wouldnt fly with such low in-flight standards, (cramped, no in-flight meal operating outside small airports located miles from the city you thought you were going) but these airlines forgot one thing, PRICE, would you sit in a plane for an hour traveling from london to dublin if you thought you could only pay 20 euro's instead of 350 euro's that other airlines like aerlingus and british airways charged? most people did, and Ryanir brought european air travel to the mass's, A working mans airline if you like, it took the 'romance' and the feeling that if you flew to another country in a plane you were somewhat special? at the end of the day an airplane is just a bus with wings, and if this theese doubters think that a budget transatlantic airline cant work, think again, Ryanairs CEO, Irishman michael o'leary has a very impressive backround after turning ryanair around from a small loss making fringe of an irish airline in the early 90's to the biggest airline (in terms of passeger numbers) in the world today, and what he touches usually turns to gold.
Posted by: david | Jan 3, 2009 8:58:47 PM
It's Ryanair! You can't handle that long a time!!
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Posted by: Matt Parsons | Jan 7, 2009 10:30:54 AM
RyanAir is awesome! Have flown them on a number of occasions throughout Europe. yes you don't get an assigned seat (which means you need to get on as early as possible to get a good one) and you usually land at an out of town airport (the circus at Pairs-Beauvais) but dude if I could fly to Europe for under $100 that would be totally worth it! I have always felt safe on ryanair and would totally take advantage of this
Posted by: veevee | Jan 7, 2009 12:01:48 PM
Okay all of you folks who really do not understand Ryanair; I love it! As long as you book in time, and take the carry on bag that will fit, as long as you don't miss or try to change your flight, then Ryan air is for you, and even with all the taxes and fees, with the low cost upfront, you still will not pay more that the regular airlines. I've done it all with Ryan Air and every other Airline possible, and sorry folks Ryan Air WINS! There is no comparison, just make sure when you book, it's the right travel date, follow the rules, your fine!
Posted by: | Jan 7, 2009 12:29:54 PM
Okay all of you folks who really do not understand Ryanair; I love it! As long as you book in time, and take the carry on bag that will fit, as long as you don't miss or try to change your flight, then Ryan air is for you, and even with all the taxes and fees, with the low cost upfront, you still will not pay more that the regular airlines. I've done it all with Ryan Air and every other Airline possible, and sorry folks Ryan Air WINS! There is no comparison, just make sure when you book, it's the right travel date, follow the rules, your fine!
Posted by: | Jan 7, 2009 12:30:03 PM
Vanessa
Thought of you when I read this. Sign me up for the maiden flight!!!
Paul
Posted by: | Jan 7, 2009 12:39:22 PM
I flew from US to Dublin last year on AA, then jumped a Ryanair flight on to Mannheim Germany, total cost including checking a bag, around $50.
The flight was no different than a Soutwest flight, except cheaper.
When Ryanair starts the transatlantic service, I'm on my way back to Ireland!
Posted by: Greg_in_co | Jan 7, 2009 12:41:47 PM
bitch pleassssssszzah!
Posted by: terry | Jan 7, 2009 12:58:58 PM
I fly an aircraft made in 1941 for fun, the plane I fly for my employer was made in 1970 and has almost 100,000 hours of flight on it.
Just because an aircraft is old does NOT mean it is unsafe.
(BOEING 747 CAPTAIN )
Posted by: Airline Captain | Jan 7, 2009 1:18:46 PM
this is awesome. i really don't mind not having some services, and if you need somethin, just pay for it. it still saves u more money. so it saves u and the airline money. thats awesome. very sweet plan. and from stansted im sure u can pretty much get to anywhere u want in europe. now if only ryanair flew to philadelphia =p =p
Posted by: tom pez | Jan 7, 2009 1:59:39 PM




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I use ryanair on a frequent basis 24+ times a year and I personnaly cannot fault them .
Ok i have to pay for food and drinks or I can take my own. The seats all have pockets!!! (have you actually ever used Ryanair?) They all have window blinds as reqiured by law!!!! and the seats recline. So what is it that you are complaining about?.
My average flight costs over the last year have been £7.23 + plus over £35 taxes per flight for trips of 1100 miles. I shall continue to use Ryanair utilising the newest fleet of aircraft in the world for as many flights as I can.