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Prescription Drugs, Not Illegal Ones, Killed Heath Ledger

By Scott Thill, AlterNet. Posted February 14, 2008.


The media pounced on his admitted love of weed and coke but did little to investigate the prescription drugs that did him in.
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"This would have never happened with weed."

I made that declaration for back in May 2007, when Oxycontin maker Purdue Pharma pled guilty to criminal charges of misleading customers about the lethality of their product, promising to pay $600-plus million and be real good people going forward. But with the accidental overdose of Heath Ledger, the first sentence of this article is proving to be a tag line with serious staying power.

Last year was the latest in a series of banner years for Oxycontin, which kicked heroin and cocaine to the metaphorical curb to become one of the most popularly abused substances of the 21st century. Of course, it has been joined by painkillers like Vicodin, sleeping pills like Restoril, anti-anxiety poppers like Valium and Xanax, and even antihistamines like Unisom, all of which were found in Ledger's system during his autopsy. The official verdict, sent in written form by medical examiner spokeswoman Ellen Borakove, avoided marketing buzzwords in favor of designations more scientific, which is to say obscure: "Mr. Heath Ledger died as the result of acute intoxication by the combined effects of oxycodone, hydrocodone, diazepam, temazepam, alprazolam and doxylamine. We have concluded that the manner of death is accident, resulting from the abuse of prescription medications."

What's in a name, you ask? Oblivion. Wait until you hear the numbers.

According to a recent Associated Press analysis of Drug Enforcement Administration stats, retail access to these "accidental" killers has skyrocketed 88 percent since 1997, and you don't even need to ask about prescriptions, because doctors are dishing them out like mints. Consequently, a collaborative study from the University of Michigan and the National Institute on Drug Abuse found that teenage abuse of Oxycrack has risen 26 percent since 2002, while overall prescription drug abuse has tripled among teens since 1992. For those who know their immortal hip-hop well, that was the year N.W.A. soundtracker and rapper Dr. Dre scored crossover platinum with The Chronic, a highly influential album dedicated to the love of cannabis that made Snoop Dogg a superstar in his own right. Neither has yet to die of weed.

The irony is sweet and sour. And while I'm not sure if Heath Ledger was a fan of Dre and Snoop, he was certainly a fan of cannabis. I "used to smoke five joints a day for 20 years," he confessed on a hidden camera video that Entertainment Tonight bought and planned to air, but then reportedly pulled "out of respect" for Ledger's family. In the video, Ledger allegedly flirts with coke and openly admits to the problem it will cause Michelle Williams, who according to the Rupert Murdoch-owned tabloid New York Post had to lay down the law with the Brokeback Mountain and Batman star over his abuse of not just those drugs but heroin as well. Once the video was yanked, his family and business associates sighed with deep thanks and quickly condemned the former decision to air it as "shameful exploitation of the lowest kind."

But was it? Sure, airing footage of Ledger at a Hollywood coke party while he rhapsodizes about how much cannabis he used to smoke may not have been the most sensitive way for Entertainment Tonight to eulogize him. But an important point is being utterly missed: Coke, heroin and weed did not kill him. Prescription drugs did.

And while cocaine or heroin may have been able to do the trick had he kept abusing them, cannabis probably would have never been able to pull the trigger: No one in the history of medicine has ever died from an overdose of marijuana, according to evidence so far. Heath Ledger probably could have smoked 200 joints a day and not died of an overdose. He probably would have died of morbid obesity, if anything.


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Scott Thill runs the online mag Morphizm.com. His writing has appeared on Salon, XLR8R, All Music Guide, Wired and others.


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It was a hit
Posted by: compu on Feb 14, 2008 1:06 AM   
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That legal or otherwise drugs were found
on his body,it means a thing.
The guy made a ton enemies from the old's club.
One only needed visit their sites short after
his death to see their glee.
Isn't that difficult for intruders to force
someone to take stuff.
A friend of mine worked enforcing bad debt
for samerica businessmen,I know a thing or two
about .Of course never did,but people talk.

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» RE: It was a hit Posted by: jroth420
Thebigkate
Posted by: Thebigkate on Feb 14, 2008 4:04 AM   
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Let us be clear here! As a former addictions counselor, I know that only addicts (and Heath Ledger was an addict) take and mix prescription drugs like oxycodone, hydrocodone, Restoril, valium, Xanax, Lorezepam and Unisom (over the counter) TOGETHER! If I (or probably you) took one of each of these drugs together, we would be dead too. They are lethal when mixed, and the labels clearly tell you so.

Only addicts take mixtures of drugs like these. The rest of us would be too zonked out, most likely, after mixing the first three. In fact, we would not even think about doing it! But addicts have unusually high drug tolerance, and they often don't feel the desired effect until they have overdosed--which unfortunately, can end in death!

This is what is very sad and has not been talked about much at all in the media--that a beautiful, highly talented young actor with a young child and a brilliant future was addicted to pot, as well, probably, as cocaine and heroin. Then he went on to heavy duty prescription drugs. This is what addicts do, and are in denial that this might kill them--or else are too zonked out to care!

Addiction is a serious problem in our culture. And a very sad one. Families and friends are devastated every day by the loss of a loved one to a mistaken overdose! We are in our own kind of denial about how serious this issue is. Perhaps the gift from Heath Ledger's death will be to focus us on just how tragic--and how treatable this illness is!

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» Addicted to Pot? Posted by: Aimleft
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How did Ledger obtain so many "same-purpose" medications?
Posted by: mjabele on Feb 14, 2008 4:39 AM   
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I don't know too many (any?) physicians who would, individually, prescribe the combination of drugs that was found in this man's body. My guess is that he obtained drugs from different providers, who were likely unaware of what he was getting elsewhere. As a Hollywood star, I doubt he had much trouble getting himself seen when or wherever he pleased by medical practitioners, who may have been more loathe than they should have been to deny him inappropriate prescriptions given his celebrity status.

Heroin may not have been the actual substance that killed him, but opiate addiction is "non-selective", if you will. I deal with many current and former heroin addicts in my clinic, and would point out that the practice of abusing other opiates - especially Vicodin, Percocet, and Oxycontin, all of which can be readily bought as "street drugs" - is far more common among these folks than the general population. Heroin does seem to serve as a kind of "gateway drug" for other forms of opiate addiction, at least in the population I see (though the reverse pattern also occurs). Moreover, opiate addicts in general do seem to have lower pain thresholds than non-addicts, meaning that when they do have a genuine medical or surgical problem requiring pain medication, the prescriptions often have to be higher dose / longer duration.

In any case, I certainly don't think of heroin as a drug that, were it to be regulated by the government, would somehow become "benign", and I hope that isn't one of the messages that people take away from this article.

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» RE: I do know someone who does Posted by: Inlander
» Ask Elvis. Posted by: Ignatz deFyre
Candy Store
Posted by: carbon-based on Feb 14, 2008 4:55 AM   
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anyone familiar with drug use today will tell you that most prescription drugs are available from ANYONE on the street and are the most abused drugs out there..

Ledger was an addict..nothing accidental about what they found.

This is a problem that has surpassd "illegal" drugs and is the choice for many young adults today. Adding to this problem is the fact that doctors will prescribe pain killers like candy..tell them something hurts and there is a drug for it.

Our society has accepted the fac that they must drug their body to cope whether it be pot or pain killers - people can't handle life any more!

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» Hello POPPIES! Posted by: leener
» RE: Hello POPPIES! Posted by: carbon-based
Legalize Marijuana!
Posted by: leener on Feb 14, 2008 5:40 AM   
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Heath Ledger would have been better off having a few joints to help him deal with his demons. He could have smoked a few, gone for a fatty pork sandwich from a downtown roach coach, rolled over with a full belly and slept soundly. He would have woken up the next morning and been ready for action.

It's a shame his doctor couldn't have prescribed marijuana for him.

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We Are Addicts, High Intellect, Usually Involved in the Arts and the Great Manipulators...
Posted by: Turiye on Feb 14, 2008 5:58 AM   
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As a recovering addict, 14 years, we go from dr. to dr. and know how to get what we want, our calendars have dr.'s and pharmacies circled so
we do not confuse refills, different drug or two per doc, different pharmacy for refills. Doctors are only trained in one thing, go to an Family Doc, he'll give you what you want. I had at one time, Fentanyl patches, oxycontin, percs, Benzos, vicodin, adderall, klonapin at one time.
Docs have tunnel vision, they know one thing, plus Big Pharma bad mix, I would have been dead if my 17 year old hadn't found me, sweet tortured soul, due to my addiction, Dad passed on the gene.
it is what it is, Admit you have a problem and your life has become unmanageable, for newbies at N. A ., 90 in 90, get a sponsor with over 5 years clean time, work your steps, if you do not get thru Step four I guarantee you you will go back out, and Alcohol is ALSO a DRUG.

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Drs dishing them out like mints?
Posted by: bookie on Feb 14, 2008 6:25 AM   
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I don't know any Drs who dish them out like mints or otherwise. I've suffered from a painful systemic illness for years which sometimes requires pain killers. None of my Drs have ever been anything but extremely cautious in monitering the pain and how much I take for it. Of course with chronic pain you don't take the pills to actively feel good. The best you can hope for is a decrease in the acuity of the pain.

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» Me too! Posted by: sweet_byrd
Media coverage spins for Big Pharma...
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Feb 14, 2008 6:25 AM   
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From USA Today, "polypharmacy".

"Doctors and pharmacists call it polypharmacy, which simply means the use of two or more drugs at the same time. . . . an autopsy found that Ledger had taken two narcotic painkillers, three benzodiazepine tranquilizers and an over-the-counter sleep aid — a deadly combination, even in low doses.

The specific drugs were:

*Oxycodone, brand OxyContin, an opiate painkiller
*Hydrocodone, brand Vicodin, an opiate painkiller
*Diazepam, brand Valium, a antianxiety drug (benzo)
*Alprazolam, brand, Xanax, similar to Valium (benzo)
*Temazepam, brand Restoril, similar to Valium (benzo)
*Doxylamine, an antihistamine, brand Unisom

Let's see - if Ledger had died of a combination of heroin, cocaine and MDMA, would the papers be calling it "polypharmacy"? The medical PR press is using headers like "Safe Medications, Used Inappropriately".

What you have here is another crisis for Big Pharma, and so they've launched their normal PR effort to hush it up - the same as was done for the links between Prozac-type antidepressants and school shootings (including Columbine, Jeff Weise in Minnesota, and Virginia Tech).

The PR push by the pharmaceuticals will center around efforts to blame the victim - as in "Ledger was an addict, and he abused perfectly safe drugs."

Pharmaceutical educators will want to avoid discussing any statistics - such as a comparison between the number of people who are killed each year by pharmaceutical painkillers and antidepressants, and those who die from cannabis. . . (about 10,000 to zero). They'll also want to avoid discussion of the rising death rate from their drugs.

For more on the real drug epidemic, see:
1) More Drug Overdose Deaths From Prescription Pain Killers Than Cocaine Or Heroin In The US, 2006"

"The contribution of prescription pain killers to the epidemic has only become clear recently. . . . Between 1999 and 2002 the number of overdose death certificates that mention poisoning by opioid pain killers went up by 91.2%."

2) Prescription Drug Overdose Becomes Big Killer February 6, 2007

"Prescription-drug overdoses have increased 800 percent in Washington between 1995, when 45 overdose deaths were reported, to 2004, when 411 state residents died from overdoses on drugs like hydrocodone and methadone."

Attempts to smear Heath Ledger as a drug addict are right on par with Big Pharma's attempts to avoid responsibility for their products.

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» AMEN! Posted by: leener
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» whoops! Posted by: thoughtcriminal
» high-volume sales beat low-volume sales Posted by: thoughtcriminal
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Drugs are like guns. You get them any place, they kill
Posted by: flymulla on Feb 14, 2008 7:00 AM   
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Prescription Drugs, Not Illegal Ones, Killed Heath Ledger
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Ledger vs. Limbaugh
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Feb 14, 2008 7:46 AM   
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Ledger: dead, smeared in the press, got his drugs legally outside of the illegal ones.

Limbaugh: alive, not smeared in the press, got his drugs illegally... but only the legal prescription kind.

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» Huh Mr. Luddite ??? Posted by: gellero
» RE: Huh Mr. Luddite ??? Posted by: Bibsi
People, we need REFRAME the issue and
Posted by: maxpayne on Feb 14, 2008 8:11 AM   
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70 years ago, BIG PHARMA cooperated with the vested business interests and social fundie terrorists to outlaw Cannabis. Instead of getting stuck in the "pot" frame, there needs to be public awareness on the 26000 industrial uses of hemp and the fact that hemp is NOT marijuana. Now let's get the reframing going and win this one.

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The Result of the Prescription Drug Panic - Part I
Posted by: aussidawg on Feb 14, 2008 8:20 AM   
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I can see what is going to be the end resut of the current prescription drug panic and it ain't pretty! I suffer from chronic pain (degenerative joint disease) and cannot funtion normally without pain killers and agree that doctors do not prescribe them like candy, at least those with a CII scheduling. In my state (Texas) you cannot get a Schedule II medication without a triplicate prescription which is written on a special prescription form printed by the Department of Public Safety (DPS). Once the prescription has been written, it must be filled within seven days and every individual prescription is accounted for by an individual, by hand, at the main DPS headquarters in Austin. If one gets multiple prescriptions from different doctors, both they and the doctors get busted. However, the same cannot be said for Schedule III and IV medications. These include pain killers such as Vicodin and Lortab (hydrocodone...CIII) and benzodiazapines (Xanax, Valium, Restoril, Ativan...CIV.) The benzo's do seem to be prescribed like candy and unfortunately, are more addictive in my opinion than pain killers. One fear I do have is that with the current level of publicity that prescription drugs are getting, those that truly need these medications may have a more difficult time obtaining them. I don't know how other chronic pain patients handle their medications, but I get my meds from one doctor, use one pharmacy, and keep my medications in a locked box to prevent access by anyone but myself. Further, most of those I know who suffer chronic pain keep close track of the quantity of their medications as early refills are not allowed. Finally, the prescription drug abuse epidemic (panic) will result in the same thing as the over all drug war...innocent people will wind up being arrested on some trumped up charge of prescription drug diversion while others (the rich)will get off free. An existing example of this is the difference in the cases of Richard Paey, who is serving a 25 year sentence in Florida for possession with intent to distribute Percocet, and Rush Limbaugh, who did the same thing and got off with a slap on his fat wrist. Richard Paey is a legitimate chronic pain patient who suffers from multiple sclerosis and degenerate disk disease. He is wheelchair bound and was arrested for possessing Percocet with intent to distribute. The DEA had him under observation for a long period of time and saw no evidence he was selling the medication, then when aressted weighed the drug to include the acetemenophen as narcotic weight to get a more severe charge. He was sentenced to 25 years, in spite of the judge's objection, due to mandatory sentencing guidelines. Further, once in prison, he was implanted with a morphine pump which delivers more narcotic to his system than the drugs he was prescribed and arrested for. When he asked Jeb Bush for a pardon he was denied. Rush Limbaugh on the other hand was supposedly consuming somewhere around 2000 Oxycontin tabs per month and obtaining those both by multiple doctors and from the street. He was arrested yet served no time whatsoever.

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THE CHARGE AGAINST BIG PhRMA= HOMOCIDE
Posted by: drricklippin on Feb 14, 2008 8:34 AM   
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Thanks Scott Thill-

I too have written about this fiasco, this corruption and baldfaced hypocrisy.

I have called Big PhRMA nothing less that "legal" drug pushers!

For the many who are their victims including their families they stand legally culpable.This is nothing less than criminal activity.

I believe indictments and jail time are called for. (Wrist slapping -like fines- against Big PhRMA executives is an insult to us who care about this issue)

The charge- Homocide!

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton. Pa
http://medicalcrises.blogspot.com

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» BRILLIANT Posted by: gellero
Heath and drugs
Posted by: kagu632418 on Feb 14, 2008 8:41 AM   
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Good grief - Now you want to blame Pharmaceutical companies for his death? Get real - its just so typical for America lets blame someone's behavior on someone else !

This guy got his prescription drugs from various sources - was not responsible enough to let each Physician know what he was already taking ... Just like a good drug addict he lived by his motto: More is better - regardless if it involves illegal or legal drugs ... its his own addiction that got him - not the company that produces the drugs ...

Its like that with everything in the good ole USA Not too many want to be responsible for their actions, no wonder we are in the shape we are in ...

God bless Heath's family - guys like him don't realize what their behavior does to those they leave behind ..

Sure if your son kills my child - lets blame the gun manufeacturer - not you; because you were not involved enough to know what your son posessed ... Crikey!!!!!!

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» RE: Heath and drugs Posted by: abido0
Access
Posted by: DaBear on Feb 14, 2008 9:02 AM   
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Damn it sucks that dude lost it. Damn it sucks that he had such good access to meds 'n mixed 'em up or whatever and ended up dead for it. Damn it sucks that he knew what he was doing and ended up dead. He ended up dead. That sucks.

But all this talk about Oxycrack brings something to mind. When I ruptured a disk in my back Oxycrack (the generic not the brand because insurance doesn't cover brand names... at least not insurance the po' are forced to buy) was the only thing that didn't make me hurl non-stop, which of course makes the pain of a ruptured disk really thrilling. That shit was like a miracle to me. Morphine burned the crap outta my veins until they could give me the epidural, which cost $2400 a pop, mind you... my "copay." But after that I used Oxycrack per the doc's Rx and it was nice to not hurl on-stop and to have manageable pain. But when I ran out, despite the rx, the insurer wouldn't let me have any more. If Ida known it was available on the street, Ida got it there.

Bottom line, while the rich have access to anything they want so they can play with the shit, the po' have insurers telling them they cannot have what they medically need. Course, now, living in a campground, with no insurance at all, I totally can't get what I need. But hey, a dude's dead.

The rich better suck it up... the po' gonna get pissed off 'nuff someday and they comin' fer ya, rich folk.

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» RE: Access Posted by: dragongal
No Surprises Just Big Coverups By Big Pharma
Posted by: bettina9292 on Feb 14, 2008 10:05 AM   
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Just within the last week I heard an NPR report on the ever growing statistics on this specific type of death in the US. We have not been hearing about the increasing death rate from accidental prescription drug over doses, because it is labeled in the toxicity, death statistic world as "accidental poisoning"not prescription overdose. Apparently in 2002 the 3RD leading cause of injury death in the US is "poisoning" and not the drank the draino type of death either. This is a statistic taken right from the US Department id Health and Human Resources website from information gathered from death certificates. Take a looksee at the chart for all age groups at www.nhtsa.dot.gov.pdf. This death rate has been almost exponentially climbing and apparently replacing Auto accident deaths in many geographic areas. Oh and by the way...isn't this just another male version of the Anna Nicole Smith saga last year? The really sad part of all of this is that this is just another HUGE health problem created by BIG Pharma that is affecting the middle class-not just the wealthy and famous. Pretty frightening.. a reminds me of the importation of illegal drugs in the 1950 and 1960's into the African American Communities by white conservatives to placate and destroy them. TV and advertisements are not enough anymore to seduce us into buying. Now we need to be buying while we are heavily doped and numbed on these drugs to really be purchasing and not feeling any pain as we click far away into our ipods and charge away our lives.

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I can resist everything except temptation- Oscar Wilde
Posted by: Ignatz deFyre on Feb 14, 2008 10:10 AM   
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Lack of self-respect leads to self-destruction. Perhaps evolution is at work here.

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He was a nice guy victim of lots of stress
Posted by: BonnieCastellane on Feb 14, 2008 10:46 AM   
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We were walking down the street at Washington Square in Manhattan with my friend Eugenia, a Chilean born artist, a few months ago when suddenly we saw Heath Ledger playing chess with some old folks, who were laughing because he won the game. We just greet Ledger, and we got an exceptional impression of this “celebrity. Without any hesitation he was a very nice, a low profile young man, we had a little chat with him, which impact us deeply because of his humbleness and charisma, I will never forget his smile and deep glance and his words speaking in a beautiful English, more from London than Perth. What happened with him is shockingly more and more common in these days. We are going through quite difficult and complex times; many people cannot overcome the problems that they must face each day of their lives. Somebody had wrote in the Times, instead of running or walking in a park, or socializing with good friends, positive ones, trying to overcome depression, anxiety and some emptiness in his life. Heather went to many doctors asking them for "magical solutions", which are all those pills mentioned in most articles. I know most of them quite well, I had went through a similar circumstance and I had taken lots of them, until one day I got a scare when I noticed that I couldn't get up and I wasn’t breathing normally. I was alone at home, I pray to Our Lord and making lots of efforts, I walked away, took a taxi and went to a clinic. In some way I save my life, but was a miracle. Since then I just replace most pills with lots of exercises, a therapist and a break every once in a while, which anyone needs. Life is too precious and this crazy world where everything is so competitive, many people doesn’t realize how much they are loosing. How many real friends had Heather Ledger? Not so many I am convinced. Hollywood is not the best place to find true friendship. He was terribly alone, and after learning about those tasteless jokes about his tragic death, I can only feel contempt for those circles. As a Christian I am sure that Heath is resting in peace now, he was a wonderful person and a unique actor; I don’t really care about all what those Hollywood gossipers are chitchatting about him. Farewell dear Heath God surely had found a nice dwell for you in heaven.

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BLAH BLAH BLAH HEATH LEDGER IS/WAS THE GREATEST
Posted by: Harleyrose on Feb 14, 2008 11:40 AM   
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I think that all you big mouth want to be's should just shut up, the man is dead, let him rest in peace along with his family. All these so called experts about drugs, please give me a break a doctor wrote me a couple scrips, the pharmacit did not fill them because he stated the combination would kill me, they would stop my breathing and my heart. So dont insult everyones intelligents here. And don't say the bottles contain warning labels they don't, and don't say the Doctor would not presc. cause they do. I really don't think he was an addict and there is no proof of it, so what he smoked pot so did Pres. Clinton, so does half the USA, and for coke give me a break most of the US population have tried that at one time in their life... So shut up about it, he was a great actor, father, friend and son.... just leave it alone and stop trying to analze it already... hes gone it is now between him and God not us... give up already.

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great discussion but money will out.
Posted by: cbishopp on Feb 14, 2008 11:47 AM   
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Addiction can be defined physically or morally. Those preaching the moral side will always win and will not be detered. Sadly, this is also the argument used by the theives and magicians whose main concern is getting to the money behind the drug.
Why else would the same politicians who preach a drug free America allow more drugs to be sold than ever at your corner Walgreens or Rite Aid?
Why has the practice of going to your physician to be diagnosed for a problem or illness been replaced by patients merely asking for prescriptions?
Where is the health in that?
How did we even survive all those thousands of years of human existence before we got our pills?
The reason for all of this is power and money.

Drug enforcement is a huge business, billions of dollars are seized each year (often when there is little evidence to support a true crime). As pot is prevalent but hard to tax it was demonized. Now they can get at the money that way.
The goverment does not care if you are addicted to drugs, they would prefer it. Then they would know that they have a compliant citizen.

Another bigger business is the sale of drugs which is sanctioned by the government.
You can buy vicodin over the counter and support terrorism or you can buy heroin off the street that was shuttled in from Afghanistan by the CIA and support terrorism, your choice. I am not saying that ONLY the government deals drugs but I am saying that they are the largest most profitable operation out there. Go ask Merck or Genentech who they have to pay to get drugs certified by the FDA, to get drugs on the shelves to you, the consumer.

The only vote you have in this "democracy" is your dollar. Where your money goes will determine your future not Hillary or Obama or the Congress or the law.

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Addictions to Big Pharma
Posted by: anna132 on Feb 14, 2008 12:14 PM   
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Well you don't treat an addict with mind altoring drugs to get him off of the ILLEGAL drugs and pretend that the so-called LEGAL over the counter drugs are going to "HELP" him.I bet noone even thought to try to help him out huh.All they care about is getting their Big Corrupt pockets full and if their drugs kill someone then so-be-it cause they only look out for themselves and noone else matters.

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Media is About Money
Posted by: MobileSucks on Feb 14, 2008 12:40 PM   
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The Mainstream Media is a business that depends on advertiser dollars.

Illegal drug manufacturers and dealers don't advertise on the TV news or in corporate magazines and newspapers do they? Advertisers shape news coverage.

Have you seen network evening news lately? Every other commercial is for - guess what?

Also, the corporate media is opportunistic and the illegal drugs are just one of those scandalous subject matter they can't help themselves but to over-focus on. Tragic death of young, talented, beloved celebrity and his use of the naughty bad illegal drugs: What better story for corporate media? People tune in more and advertisers aren't discomforted by the story, and of coarse more people tuning in means that advertisers will pay more to have their ads on.

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What Made Heath Run?
Posted by: Gungneir on Feb 14, 2008 1:03 PM   
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It's been brought up a few times here (just a few; most everyone else has been focusing on the drug angle) but I'll bring it up again. That Heath Ledger was playing Pick 'n' Mix with those particuliar meds to begin with points to something deeper. Undeniably, he had a lot going for him, yet he exited off this vale of Quarterpounders in a way that can be justly called tragic. So the question is...why? What was so horrible about his life that he needed something the legal pushers were providing?

It's not a question I expect an answer to. Only Ledger could have answered that one with certainty and he's no longer here to tell us about that or anything else. But maybe it's a question we need to ask ourselves--as individuals, as a community, as a society, and as a nation. What do we do in our lives that can be called an addiction? Drugs are only the best publicized option; there are others. The next question to ask: what are we trying to escape from when we do it? What makes us run?

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» RE: What Made Heath Run? Posted by: MobileSucks
» Not exactly, MobileSucks... Posted by: Gungneir
» RE: Not exactly, MobileSucks... Posted by: MobileSucks
» RE: What Made Heath Run? Posted by: aethr
» RE: What Made Heath Run? Posted by: Kuressaare
choice of words
Posted by: Ames on Feb 14, 2008 8:11 PM   
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a lot of posters here have claimed that ledger was an addict. the problem is, you have no clinical diagnosis with which to back this up. you are 'assuming' that he was an addict because of various reports of drug consumption. frequent weed use and occasional coke and heroin use does not an addict make.
calling him an addict when this is not factually established is tantamount to defamation and slander. so please stop stating your personal opinions and conjecture as if they were proven fact.

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We need The DEA to arrest The FDA..!
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Feb 14, 2008 11:40 PM   
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The FDA has killed more Americans by tens of thousands than al-Qaeda and created a new generation of junkies..!

We need The DEA to arrest the whole fucking FDA..!

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Ah, Yes......the FDA
Posted by: gellero on Feb 15, 2008 3:00 AM   
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Ah, Grasshopper, your wisdom is astounding. It was the FDA all the time.

But tell us more....which FDA rule or individual do you find so culpable??

I'm sure as you progress on your journey of wisdom you will be able to provide us with more insight.

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I suspect murder
Posted by: HoboHomo on Feb 15, 2008 5:30 PM   
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I believe "accidental overdose" is the cover presented to the public. Either by police or family, or both.

I suspect forced suicide by homophobic hit men. As punishment for portraying a gay person with integrity. Why on earth any compassionate (non-homophobic) person would so promptly accept the "official" declaration on Ledger's death is beyond me!

Why would any such (gay-friendly) person not question the demise of the first big screen star to portray a gay cowboy in a blockbuster movie? You hardly need to be paranoid even a smidgeon, to have serious questions in this matter. Unless, of course, you're a fag-basher and care not to support any consideration that is pro-queer.

Oxycontin is more dangerous than originally revealed. Quote: "Oxycontin maker Purdue Pharma pled guilty to criminal charges of misleading customers about the lethality of their product".

Easy enough for a homophobic physician (and there are many, as there are many Xian doctors) to overprescribe dangerous medications with intent to murder, and get away with it. (It freaked me out two years ago, when I went for an eye exam at UC Med Center here in San Francisco, so-called "Gay Mecca," how many doctors/nurses/aides wear a cross necklace.)

Ledger's death is as eerily suspicious as the gay cowboy's death in Brokeback Mountain. A haunting parallel, which I am surprised to be the only one on the planet (apparently) to have entertained.

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Detoxer
Posted by: Detoxer on Feb 15, 2008 6:33 PM   
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As the director of Novus Medical Detox, I hear stories about the friends of our patients who died from overdoses. I see the ravages of the prescription drug epidemic. I see the wrecked lives and devastated families.

We are in a prescription drug epidemic.

We have to educate our people or the deaths willl spiral.

Steve Hayes
http://novusdetox.com

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The depth of Ledger
Posted by: Kathy_UK on Feb 16, 2008 10:17 AM   
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OVERDOSE ....SUICIDE ..ACCIDENTAL..NON-ACCIDENTAL...ANOTHER BEAUTIFUL SPECIMEN HAS LEFT THIS PLANET TOO SOON AGAIN

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